03/10/2023
JACK THE RIPPER PSYCHIC READING by MEDIUM Liz Cross – July 2023
Hosted by Tod Ronan.
LC: I have wanted to do this reading for three years. Nobody was ever brave enough to do it.
TR: It's a popular request among YouTube comments to see the true identity of who the so-called Jack the Ripper was. So I wondered how we would go about pulling up the energy of that character?
LC: Okay, so I have Jack the Ripper here. I know it's freaky, right?
TR: It IS freaky! A chill ran down my spine when you said that.
LC: He was an artist.
(Pause)
TR: What's your real name?
LC: John.
TR: You think you were an artist but killing people is not really an art. What drove you to this heinous murder of women?
LC: Well, this is a very typical answer which serial killers give which is they wanted to avoid...they wanted to re-attach their emotions. They wanted to feel the 'prosecutor/easy prey'. And he also put a lot of his emotions into his artwork. I feel that he was quite disconnected from his emotions. But then as he was doing the killing...the butchering. Sometimes even as he was ra**ng them he would take that experience and put it on paper. Now, I'm sorry to hijack the reading but I have to ask this question. What was that crime writer who believed Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper? Because right off the bat I got that he was an artist. So I asked (Jack) if you were Walter Sickert and I got a 'no'. It was Patricia Cornwall who put that book out. I don't know if you remember that? I remember when it came out everybody was reading that book. And I even went to an exhibition of his drawings and it was so strange while looking at them that I instinctively knew this was not Jack the Ripper.
TR: Is some of your artwork still out there in the public domain or has all of your artwork been destroyed?
LC: He's a very famous artist.
TR: Ooo!
LC: I know! Right up our street, right? Now we're going to have to comb through all the artists to find out who he is.
TR: Were you born in London?
LC: No.
TR: Were you born in France?
LC: No, I feel like he was born more...(Asking)”Where were you born?”...Yes, he's English. And he was born more around the northern area of England. And he came to London to be a famous painter to make money.
TR: and what turned you into...?
LC: Erm, it was the frustration of trying to connect to his emotions. Trying to display your emotions to people through your artwork...whatever emotions you had left. He would have to draw it from events. When he gave me the name John, I said is this a joke? Because men who visit pr******tes are called John, right? And that's what the pr******tes would call him...and that's how he was known. But he kept his identity secret. But he was a very famous......is now a very famous painter. What is so great about this area of Whitechapel is that I once had to attend a university in a rented building because the main building was undergoing renovations and I actually used to walk down the alleyways in the street in Whitechapel...and it was so...I don't know...it was just as if the events were unfolding right then and there and hitting me. You could feel the energy in those streets. It...it... was wild!
TR: How many women did he kill?
LC: (Quietly asking)...Thirty.
TR: (Gasp) Did he kill any men or just women?
LC: (Quietly asking)...Yes, he killed men...he didn't kill children. He had children...he had children, actually.
TR: Was he married?
LC: (Quietly asking)...Yes. But he led a double if not triple life. (Audibly asking) Was your wife with you in London?......Yes, his wife was with him in London. (Audibly asking) Did she live with you in the east end?......Yes, she lived with him in the east end. He's a...he's a well-known artist.
TR: What was your motivation behind your desire to kill even though you had a relationship with your wife and children? And how did it get started? Was Mary Anne Nicholls the first woman or were there more before her that weren't linked to you?
LC:(Quietly asking) No, she wasn't the first one. He killed many more before then. (Audibly asking)...Did you kill up north?...Yes, he killed up north too. He did.
TR: What got him started on this? Like, why?
LC: Because he was rejected by women...mostly. He felt unloved and rejected. His mother was a pr******te. He grew up in that. He knew how pr******tes operated. His mother was one, so he secretly hated his mother for being a pr******te.
TR: So it was a rejection, a repudiation of his mother. There are a couple of letters that are claimed to have been written by him. Did he ever write letters to taunt the police or are those......jokes?
LC: (Audibly asking)...Did you write letters? Yes, he did write letters because he wanted to stop killing...and he couldn't.
TR: What was his mental infirmity or disorder?
LC: It's more of a low self-esteem rejection. Low self-worth. Lack of self-love. His mother did not raise him properly. He had no real father figures in his life. Men were just coming and going. His mother just wanted him out of the way. She would beat him. She abused him. And she also allowed the customers to abuse him as well. As in, if they wanted to sodomise him as a child, as long as they were paying money, it was allowed.
TR: did he have any desire to find out how the inner workings of the body reacted or did he just want to kill and feel like, that energy? Because there has been speculation that he might have been a doctor trying to understand what the body looked like.
LC: (Quietly asking) Were you a doctor? No, he wasn't a doctor......are you sure you're not Walter Sickert? (Inaudible response) (Audibly asking) Why did you cut them? It was just the hate and anger that he had. He treated every pr******te like his mother. It was a very sick existence that he grew up in. And his wife...I mean they had multiple children, right. I mean lots of children. But she was very naive. She knew her place. He was very abusive to her. She knew better than to ask questions. Because asking questions, especially if he had had a couple of drinks, was going to lead to a beating and in those times the police didn't care. You were allowed to beat your wife.
TR: Was he reincarnated as a serial killer?
LC: Erm, as in, has he reincarnated again since Jack the Ripper?
TR: As H. H. Holmes, somebody asked?
LC: (Intake of breath) Oooh!! Has he reincarnated as H. H. Holmes...or is he H. H. Holmes? (Audibly asking) Are you H. H. Holmes?...No. He has reincarnated as another serial killer.
TR: So, lessons and karma are not working on the other side then...(Chuckle)
LC: It's repeating it...and repeating it...all the time. If we don't process and figure out what we are doing, we just keep repeating it.
TR: Are some of his works of art still hung in galleries?
LC: Many of them. (Audibly asking) Do you have any in the Tate?...No.
Do you have any in the National Gallery?...Yes. He has some work in the National Gallery.
TR: Are you Montague John Druit?
LC: No.
TR: Are you Seweryn Klosowski?
LC: Definitely not.
TR: Are you Aaron Kosminski?
LC: No.
TR: He can't lie, right? So these are the suspects. We'll see if we can get to them. Are you John Pizer? A boot maker in Whitechapel?
LC: (Quietly asking)...He knew John Pizer.
TR: Are you John James Thomas Sadler?
LC: (Quietly asking)...No. How many suspects ARE there?
TR: Oh, there are millions! (A ridiculous exaggeration, of course. But there are well over a hundred.)
LC: Ha, ha! We'll be here all day.
TR: Did you...know Lewis Carroll?
LC: Yes.
TR: Were you an o***m addict?
LC: No.
TR: What was your...vice of choice?
LC: Alcohol.
TR: Were you Michael Maybrick?
LC: Go back to his picture, please. (On screen) (Pause)...No.
TR: Are you David Cohen?
LC: (Quietly asking)...No.
LC: So one of the first initial Jewish areas in London was around Whitechapel. The oldest synagogue in the UK is in central London. That area of the east end. But it's not Jewish anymore. Most of the Jews moved out to Golders Green and Hendon and Edgeware. I lived in those areas myself for many years.
TR: Are there Jack the Ripper tours around the area?
LC: Oh, yeah, although I didn't live in Whitechapel. I lived in the North West London area.
TR: Let's get this out of the way then. What was JTR's primary vocation?
LC: (Quietly asking)...An artist.
TR: Can you give us the names of paintings he's done?
LC: Names are difficult to pull. And the numbers are few. But I can tell you that his paintings were very peaceful. Really just sort of family life stuff. You know, documenting family and their lives. Erm, you know, out in the garden...or by the river...or in the sun. It was really just documenting families. He was commissioned to make a lot of artwork.
(The logical speculation: John Atkinson Grimshaw)
TR: We'll have to come back and do a part two of this. What did he learn about killing all these women...and how did he die?
LC: (Quietly asking)...That it wasn't the answer. And that nothing was going to fill the void...and that...he could never make that reconnection back to himself. And he died of liver damage. He was a terrible alcoholic.
TR: Aren't all artists terrible alcoholics, it seems?
LC: Ha, ha! Yes. He's just said to me he would never get away with it now because of all the forensics and CCTV and surveillance and all that. So he had his heyday back then. He would never be able to get away with it now. He said, now you join the military and get deployed in that way. You can kill people that way. I mean, he's a killer at heart, isn't he? Yeah! How grim!
TR: Not all of his murders were of pr******tes but...
LC: No.
TR: did he have any interactions with the people he killed in future lifetimes?
LC: Yes.
TR: So he didn't learn any life lessons. (?)
LC: He killed fewer people the next time round...erm...you're not going to believe what this guy just told me. I don't even want to put this out. This is so crazy......do you wanna know what he just told me?
H: I'm concerned, but I'm curious...I'm disturbed but I wanna know. So, go ahead. (Chuckle)
LC: Let me pause the recording. (Brief pause) Okay, I told Ronan what he told me and...we're not even going to go there. Anyway......I love the National Gallery and the special ticketed expeditions they do there as well. London is really a hub for this kind of stuff. He says he has paintings in the National Gallery.
TR: He's given us a name that is an alias and not real. Did he ever work with Scotland Yard?
LC: Ooh! (Audibly asking)...Did you ever work with the police?...No. He stayed away from them. He avoided them. He was known as a drunk. He was known by the police. (Audibly asking)...Were you ever questioned by the police?...No.
TR: Did his wife ever suspect that he was the real Jack the Ripper?
LC: (Quietly asking)...Many times. He would come home with blood.
TR: Did he have children in this lifetime as Jack the Ripper?
LC: (Quietly asking)...Yes. Several.
TR: How many children?
LC: Six.
TR: What was his medium as an artist? Did he do paintings...? Was he a sketch artist...?
LC: He did sketches...but mostly paintings.
TR: Who were his inspirations? What other artists?
LC: Erm, DaVinci......DaVinci was huge. Definitely DaVinci. Because, he's telling me, any real artist who could depict emotion would inspire him. You see, that's why he was just doing sort of portraits of families. He had difficulty trying to connect with emotion. Therefore he just did portraits.
TR: People or places...?
LC: People. You see when all this came out about Walter Sickert...I mean it was a really hot topic.
TR: Well, we're not saying it's him...are we?
LC: No...no, but isn't it funny we're getting all this about artists. It's funny because, you know, he really hated women. So, why would you have them carry out their jobs as a pr******te if you hated them? Well, it was all about abusing them...and taking what is mine......I don't know! Erm, this is obviously someone who was quite deranged in that lifetime. And just as I said that he is laughing at me...he thinks it is funny......I don't think it is funny at all.
TR: I think it is disgusting and it turns the pit of my stomach and......murder is wrong. All right, we'll do more work on this......Jack the Ripper! We're on to you!
LC: Yes! Absolutely...ha! We're just one of many, many on the trail. But this is good. We have a different angle.
TR: Yes, thanks, Liz. No thanks to Jack the Ripper. Thank you everybody.
[Well, actually, if the discarnate individual known in his former lifetime as JTR had chosen NOT to cooperate so openly with psychic medium Liz Cross...and it can't be said he was ever forced to do so. Given the circumstances, there is no specific reason for him to have communicated at all other than to perhaps help to unburden himself to some degree, so we would have now been none the wiser about the intimately detailed reality of the utterly sad and sordid background conditions of east end poverty of the Victorian era that ultimately led to his equally appalling part-time activities later in adult life. Thus, as the saying goes, before hastily making swift judgements about another individual's awful fate, perhaps we may need to walk a mile in the other man's moccasins. Yet, God grant none of us ever have to come to that.]
[All of the many theories that have existed over the course of time have only ever been those of conjecture, but this document brings it right down to the basics of emotional and psychological damage done to an eventual resident of Whitechapel during the course of his dreadful upbringing as a young boy in the north of England. In other words, JTR was simply an almost inevitable product of the awful living conditions of the lower classes in Victorian Britain.]
Transcribed from the audio recording by Geoff Beresford. (London 25/9/2023)