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09/18/2024

Learn about the fascinating history of Airline Radio Talk and stay informed on the latest news in the industry. Discover more below!

08/22/2024

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On August, 21, 1995, Delta Connection Flight 7529, operated by Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA), departed Atlanta bound for Gulfport/Biloxi, Mississippi. Onboard the Embraer Brasilia were 26 passengers and a Macon based crew of 3. The sole Flight Attendant onboard was Robin Fech, 37. Robin had flown for ASA since 1993. One of the passengers was returning home having been offered a Flight Attendant job by ASA.
The Brasilia took off from Atlanta at 12:23pm. Twenty minutes into the flight, Robin had started the beverage service. She was pouring drinks in the galley when there was a loud thud. First Officer Matthew Warmerdam later described it as, "a baseball bat striking an aluminum trash can." A blade had failed on the #1 engine which dislodged the entire engine. This caused excessive drag and the Brasilia became to lose altitude. The Brasilia dropped 7,000 feet before the pilots could regain control.
The pilots told Robin they were going back to Atlanta. However, the pilots quickly realized they couldn't make Atlanta. They decided to head for the airport in Carrolton, Georgia. Robin began preparing the passengers for an emergency landing. Passengers later said Robin was like a drill sergeant, taking the preparation very seriously. While stern Robin also comforted and reassured passengers. Robin moved the most able bodied passengers to the exit rows.
Nine minutes after the blade failed, the Brasilia struck trees and crashed into a field in Carroll County, Georiga. Captain Ed Gannaway was killed on impact. A fire broke out once the plane had stopped. Robin was burned, had cracked ribs, a broken collarbone, and a broken arm. She climbed out the wreckage and began assisting her passengers. Robin took off her vest and used it to put out a passenger on fire. She preformed first aid until the first responders arrived. Robin directed the rescuers to the First Officer trapped in a burning cockpit. Four passengers were killed in the post crash fire. Four passengers died later from their burns. An elderly female passenger died of a heart attack four months after the crash.
Robin was honored by the Georgia State Senate for her heroism. She was also commended by the NTSB in the accident report, "the exemplary manner in which the flight attendant briefed the passengers and handled the emergency." Robin never flew again as a Flight Attendant. She was deeply traumatized by the crash. First Officer Matthew Warmerdam was severely burned. After 50 surgeries he was able to return to the line flying for ASA.
The probable cause was determined to be undiscoverable metal fatigue in one blade from corrosion caused by chlorine. The NTSB criticized the propeller manufacturer for poor inspection, repairs, training, documentation and communication. ASA merged with ExpressJet in 2011. ExpressJet stopped flying in September 2020. The airline resumed operations in September 2021 flying out of Reno as Aha!. ExpressJet shut down again on August 22, 2022

08/09/2024

Decided to go unscripted with the radio show this Episode and read some of the many comments made on the Eastern Airlines Retiree Association's page in reference to the Boeing 757. The Administrator posted a picturer of the Boeinbg 757 at the jetway with a comment. As a result of that comment so many of you replied as to your thoughts of this great aircraft - thus we will read the many pulled along with the names of those commenting. We hope you will call in and add your thoughts during the show. The call in number is 213-816-1611 and the time to call is show time at 1:00 pm EDT, Saturday August 10th. You can listen to the show on your smart phone at this number or on your computer at: blogtalkradio.com/capteddie.

07/19/2024

GSO’s “Wonder Dog” will be the Airline Radio Hour’s Saturday July 20th Episode. We invite all that remember “WD” to listen or call in and share your memories about this very heart warming story. Especially you GSO good guys at Eastern that helped WD become the legendary Wonder Dog with cape and all. The radio show is at 1:00 pm EDT and you can listen by going to: blogtalkradio.com/capteddie at 1:00 pm. Or better, why not call in to listen or talk live about your memories of WD. The number is: 213-816-1611. See you at the Gate.

07/16/2024

"Wonder Dog" of GSO. If you've never heard this heart warming story of a stray dog. you'll definitely want to tune in this Saturday at 1:00 PM EDT. Hear the story of a dog taken in by Eastern Airlines employees and became the mascot of the terminal tenants, passengers, newspapers, tv and probably destined for the Johnny Carson show. Hear comments made by Flight Attendants, pilots and others as made on the story appearing on Facebook's Eastern Airlines Retiree Association. To listen in go to: blogtalkradio.com/capteddie at 1:00 pm. Or better, call in and listen on your smart phone: 213-816-1611. You'll even be able to add your comment to this wonderful story. See you at the Gate Saturday, July 20th.

05/25/2024

Bette Nash, world's longest-serving flight attendant, dies at 88
Nash served as an American Airlines flight attendant for nearly 67 years.
ByLeah Sarnoff and Sam Sweeney
May 25, 2024, 1:31 PM
After serving the skies for nearly 67 years, Bette Nash, the world's longest-tenured flight attendant, has died at 88 years old.
"It is with sadness that we inform you of the passing of our dear colleague, Bette Nash, the longest-tenured flight attendant at American Airlines," according to a memo to flight attendants on Saturday obtained by ABC News.
Nash died on May 17 in hospice care after a recent breast cancer diagnosis, though she never officially retired from her role with American Airlines.
Bette Nash served as an American Airlines flight attendant for nearly 67 years.
Sam Sweeney/ABC News
Nash began her career in Washington, D.C., in 1957 with Eastern Airlines, which later became American Airlines. Despite being able to choose any route in the world, Nash primarily worked the DC-NY-Boston Shuttle so she could be home every night to care for her son who has Down syndrome.
In 2022, she was honored with the Guinness World Record title for longest-serving flight attendant.
"With her quick wit, magnetic personality and passion for serving others, Bette set an example not just for the flight attendant profession but for all of us in the airline industry," Brady Byrnes, senior vice president of Inflight & Premium Guest Services for American Airlines, said in the memo.
Bette Nash served as an American Airlines flight attendant for nearly 67 years.
ABC News
When Nash first started her aviation career, passengers would purchase life insurance from a vending machine before boarding -- and flights cost $12 between New York and Washington. D.C., she told ABC News in a 2022 interview.
At the time, Nash reflected on the strict restrictions regarding weight and personal relationships she and other flight attendants had to endure to maintain their careers.
Nash said the airline would check on her at home to ensure she wasn't living with a man because flight attendants had to be single. The airline also weighed her before shifts and could suspend her if she gained too much weight, she said.
Bette Nash served as an American Airlines flight attendant for nearly 67 years.
Sam Sweeney/ABC News
"You had to be a certain height, you had to be a certain weight. It used to be horrible. You put on a few pounds and you had to keep weighing yourself, and then if you stayed that way, they would take you off the payroll," Nash said during a flight in 2017 with ABC affiliate WJLA's cameras onboard.
Before her passing, Nash attended regular flight attendant training per Federal Aviation Administration rules.
"Bette was an industry icon, and those who flew with her knew her as a role model and consummate professional," the airline said in the memo, adding, "Fly high, Bette. You'll be missed."

05/14/2024

WASHINGTON, Feb 5 (Reuters) - The head of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration told Congress in a letter on Monday that lawmakers should not raise the mandatory retirement age of airline pilots to 67 from 65, saying it should first be allowed to conduct additional research.
"It is crucial to provide the agency an opportunity to conduct research and determine mitigations," FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker said in a letter first reported by Reuters.
The U.S. Senate Commerce Committee is eying a potential hearing on Thursday to consider its own version of the aviation bill to extend the authorization of the FAA.
"When it comes to raising the pilot retirement age, the FAA has made clear that a scientific and safety analysis must come first. That has not happened," said Senator Maria Cantwell, the committee chair. "Aviation safety is paramount, and now is not the time to take a shortcut."
The U.S. House in July voted 351-69 on an aviation reform measure that would hike the mandatory retirement age to 67. "We strongly encourage preceding that type of change with appropriate research so that the FAA can measure any risk," Whitaker added.

05/14/2024

Ever think while you were flying those multi-million dollar aircraft, laying over at the great cities around the world, being served those fantastic first class crew meals, and surrounded by fabulous cabin crews and support crews, that you were ready for retirement? Unfortunately, I did. But oh how I wish I could take those thoughts back. I've now been away from those wonderful flying days for 30 years now and look back yearning to turn back the years from what is supposed to be deserved retirement years. My retirement years have been caring for my wife of 68 years through, now her late stages of dementia. At 88 years old, its been difficult. My point is: since we can't predict what will happen to us or a loved one late in life, we should enjoy the best "job" and friends you could possibly ask "God" to give you as a career and wear a smile that reflects those proud wings you wear on your chest till you can wear them no longer. Life was great back then. I just didn't know it.

04/13/2024

The aircraft your company flew, which was your favorite and why?

03/05/2024

The skies know no age
Age restrictions for recruiting cabin crew personnel have been set by many airlines. They frequently specify that applicants must be at least 18 years old. On the other extreme, some airlines would raise the upper age limit to 65, which would be in line with the average retirement age in many nations.

Individual aviation regulation agencies have decreed that the minimum age requirement for cabin crew is 18 years old. This is the case for nearly all aviation agencies throughout the world, including the FAA in the USA, EASA in Europe, and the UK’s CAA.

This minimum regulatory age does not prevent airlines from adding their own higher minimum age requirements if they wish. As a result, the typical minimum age range for cabin crew is between 18-21.

However, controversy has arisen over cabin staff maximum age requirements. The most lenient age limitations are often found in the United States, where most major airlines have no maximum age limit on applications or retirement ages. However, the requirements vary widely around the world.

Europe is not far behind the USA. Some airlines, like British Airways, do not have retirement ages or maximum age requirements for applicants. Others, like Air France, do not have an age requirement for applications, but do have a 65-year-old flight attendant retirement age, which is the same as the pilot retirement age, even if the flight attendants are in good health and can pass all safety exams.

One example of an older FA is Pam Clarke, known as ‘Nana Pam’ by her regular customers, who joined EasyJet when she was 53 and is now 73. Many experienced flight attendants decide to retire in their 70s or even later. Robert Reardon holds the current record for the oldest retired flight attendant, having retired from Delta Air Lines in 2014 at the age of 90. Bette Nash is also among the oldest flight attendants, still working for American Airlines at the age of 87. However, most Asian and Middle Eastern airlines have obligatory retirement ages of between 40 and 50.

Although these are specific airline policies, there is still no international standard for flight attendant retirement age. Many flight attendants, mostly from American and European airlines, put in many decades of honourable service with no upper age limit. This is important to note as the demand in aviation for new cabin crew outpaces the supply, and airlines are seeking solutions.

Another example is Cheryl Gaymon, who has been flying with American Airlines for 55 years. You can hear her story HERE.

Cheryl Gaymon is a familiar face at American Airlines
Post-pandemic realities
The pandemic quickly changed the aviation industry – it was reduced to one-third of its capacity during Covid-19 travel restrictions. Uncertainty rose among airlines, pilots and crew. Job security became the biggest concern or as many as 40% of pilots and crew, alongside reduced flying hours or holding no type rating. For 80% of airlines, the lack of regional talent in Europe was the main headache. Now the aviation industry must meet new demands and the need to fill crew shortages.

According to Boeing, by 2042, there will be a global need for 649,000 new pilots and 938,000 new cabin crew members.

Based on data from Statista, over the next 20 years, Europe will require around 170,000 new flight attendants for commercial aviation and around 8,000 for business aviation. To address this demand, certain requirements have made a big shift, and some European airlines have even started recruiting people over the age of 45 – these so-called ‘empty nesters’ – for flight attendant positions.

Redefining retirement – flexible paths and new opportunities
A flexible approach to mandatory retirement age promotes career paths. Flight attendants can transition into certain positions that are available to flight attendants if they meet the requirements set by the airlines. Such positions include Senior Flight Attendant or Flight Attendant-Instructor. Other roles, such as trainers, mentors or ground staff, require appropriate requalification and additional training in most cases, but their wealth of cabin crew experience can then be added to various other aspects of the aviation industry. This adaptability not only benefits the individuals but also contributes to the overall growth of the industry.

Additionally, passengers benefit from age diversity among flight attendants. Younger attendants bring enthusiasm and modern perspectives, while their more experienced counterparts offer a calming presence and wealth of knowledge. This blend creates a balanced and enhanced passenger experience.

Not having a set age for retirement reflects a commitment to shaping a sustainable and capable workforce in aviation. It also recognises the value that older crew members bring to the table.

A future unbounded
The notion of a mandatory retirement age for cabin crew is a misconception that has been dispelled by the dynamic and diverse nature of the aviation industry. It is important to realise that health and working conditions have a direct impact on retirement age. Those who work in the civil aviation industry have the right to retire with preference because of the heightened risks associated with occupations that frequently experience variations in pressure, temperature and climate, as well as intense stress.

However, flexible career paths that allow cabin crew to transition into different roles point to the resiliency of the job. The aviation industry has always been synonymous with pushing boundaries and reaching new heights, so the absence of a mandatory retirement age for cabin crew is a testament to this ethos. One aspect is undeniable – regardless of their age, cabin crew members continue to dedicate their lives to ensure a smooth, safe and comfortable journey for all passengers.

01/28/2024

Thanks Dorothy and Don, you pretty much summed it up for all the comments made about the show. The comments directed to me are really meant to be for the show itself as without you, the fans of the show, it would have only lasted about a years. You guys and gals made it happen and, of course the Star of the show - Eastern Airlines. Please read the following comment:

Dear former Eastern Airlines Captain Neal and to our dearest friend,

We send you our deepest appreciation for the years you have dedicated to keeping our Eastern Family in touch with memories, in a live vocal program. A weekly Monday evening program and then additionally programs during the week for quite a while. Don as one of your Hosts, and myself as Host and Webmaster, were proud to share 8 years with you and honored to be a part of it.

Your Eastern Airlines Radio Show program has kept many of the Eastern family together all these years in more ways than one. Hearing each week the talks and tales of what Eastern was all about, and the people who were the team that stayed together through thick and thin all those years was wonderful. Many as Don who worked for Eastern for 30 years, and like you and others who too worked Eastern for many years, kept the camaraderie living and the fun of talking about the best years of working together…alive. Your show was always giving our listeners new and old facts of the aspects of what a company did to keep the passengers loyalty and sharing the love of the employees working there. Also keeping up with the current airlines news and discussions that entertained many Eastern employees and other airline employees around the country.

Though unfortunately for all of us that Eastern ended, the love and camaraderie that existed never died. It was ongoing through the diligence of your program that made it possible to keep those memories in the forefront of all our minds. We were happy to be a part of your specialty show that shared those tales of a great company that cared about their employees and something that hasn’t seemed to be caught on with other companies around. So, though you are at a time in your life, that your show has to bid us goodbye, your generosity of giving the Eastern team a long-lasting memory of one of the best companies to work for in that industry, will never die nor be forgotten.

Again, our thanks and appreciation for all you have done to give us the best of the best. We respect you immensely and send our thanks to your family for sharing you with us for so many years.

Our love and best wishes, Don & Dorothy

01/23/2024

Why I Want To Be an Airline Pilot
Anonymous

"I want to be an airline pilot when I grow up - because it's a fun job and easy to do. That's why there are so many pilots flying around today.

Pilots don't need much school: They just have to learn to read numbers so they can read instruments. I guess they should be able to read road maps so they can find their way if they get lost.

Pilots should be brave so they won't be scared if it's foggy and they can't see, or if a wing or motor falls off, they should stay calm. Pilots have to have good eyes to see through clouds, and they can't be afraid of lightning or thunder because they're closer to them than we are.

The salary pilots make is another thing I like. They make more money than they can spend. This is because most people think plane flying is dangerous, except pilots don't because they know how easy it is.

There isn't much I don't like, except that girls like pilots and all the stewardesses want to marry pilots so they always have to chase them away so they don't bother them.

I hope I don't get airsick because I get carsick and if I get airsick I couldn't be a pilot and then I'd have to go to work." By unknown pre-teenager

PS: I like the next to last paragraph and found I had to fight them off with a stick. Editor

01/17/2024

Your Airline Retirement Is Not Complete without a little water!
By Captain Neal Holland

As a First Officer on my company’s wide-bodied aircraft, I had the pleasure of taxiing through the “water salute” upon our arrival back in Atlanta.
I think I was as impressed and pleased with this ritual as the Captain being so honored. And, of course, I thought that someday I would be so honored on my last company flight.
This tradition dates back to the end of the 19th century and is conducted usually by the airport firetrucks and their strong powerful water sprays meeting together over the aircraft that are positioned on both sides of the aircraft.
The idea of this water salute came about by transatlantic water vessels sailing into port on their successful crossing of the ocean. Fireboats were positioned to salute with arches across the length of the ship as it passed into port. On the last flight of the Concorde a red, white and blue plume was arched across this celebrated aircraft.
That “someday” did not go exactly according to my earlier thoughts, described above, of the Captain I was with on his last official flight before retirement. My airline career was cut short as my company’s labor and management problems could not be settled resulting in its eventual demise. Thus went my “water salute.” My last flight was ATL, SJO, ATL – a non-event trip on the beautiful Boeing 757, which would have been even more beautiful had I not been forced into retirement at only 53 years of age. I wonder what I would have been flying upon the mandatory retirement age of 60 back then?
Now comes the rest of my story. During the strike of 1989, I was holding a “NO LORENZO” sign across my chest in front of the entrance to Pensacola Airport chatting with fellow employees working and living in this beautiful part of the Florida panhandle. At the end of the building was the FBO (Fixed Base Operator) serving the needs of General Aviation. The FBO also had a flight school offering training in a two-seater aircraft – the Grumman Yankee aircraft.
I thought: Why not continue my flying by checking out in one of their rental aircraft and view my beautiful home and the beaches famously known as the “Emerald Coast.” Along with this thought came an idea of getting my “Water Salute.” Why not pay the FBO workers to hold two garden-type hoses on both sides of the aircraft when I taxied up to the gas pump area and blast away. Surely, an arch could be formed over the little Grumman Yankee.
A few days later, after checking out in the Grumman Yankee, I laid out my plans for my official airline career retirement to the FBO Manager and with his approval my “last retirement flight” was flown. Many of the striking employees watched as I taxied my little rental Yankee toward the gas pumps marking my official airline retirement. Two FBO fuelers stood by to direct two streams of water across the aircraft at 40 psi as opposed to 800 to 2000 psi from an airport firetruck. But the effect was a perfect arch of “retirement water” for my retirement flight as Pilot-In-Command.
And, more importantly, it was a symbol, to me, that I enjoyed nearly 27 years with a wonderful airline without harm to any passengers, crewmembers, or my aircraft.
And as the title to this little story is:
“Your Airline Retirement Is Not Complete without a little water!”
……..from a little hose or a big hose.

12/04/2023

Does anyone remember a downtown restaurant called Bee Morley's Mouse Trap known for their steaks and prime ribs?

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